The Sexual Harrassment/Assault House of Cards

blondy28 wrote:As the lone female posting on this forum, here's my public service announcement for powerful men:  Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

SoxIlliniRob wrote:I get the feeling that we don't hear much about it happening with athletes because there are so many women throwing themselves at them after games that they don't need to start jacking it in front of uninterested parties.  In the film and entertainment industry, there are a lot of serious women trying to hold down jobs and earn a check, and not need some tubby dimwit whipping his dick out just for the hell of it.

blondy28 wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:I get the feeling that we don't hear much about it happening with athletes because there are so many women throwing themselves at them after games that they don't need to start jacking it in front of uninterested parties.  In the film and entertainment industry, there are a lot of serious women trying to hold down jobs and earn a check, and not need some tubby dimwit whipping his dick out just for the hell of it.

I'm not so sure that's it.  Yes, that happens...just like I'm sure there are some people who did throw themselves at these powerful men we're hearing about, but I have personally been subjected to unwanted groping by a 2 former Bulls (one hall of famer, one just a role player) and a former All Star Black Hawk.  I also witnessed another hall of fame Bull grope someone against her will, as well as a former All Star Bull.

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

blondy28 wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:I get the feeling that we don't hear much about it happening with athletes because there are so many women throwing themselves at them after games that they don't need to start jacking it in front of uninterested parties.  In the film and entertainment industry, there are a lot of serious women trying to hold down jobs and earn a check, and not need some tubby dimwit whipping his dick out just for the hell of it.

I'm not so sure that's it.  Yes, that happens...just like I'm sure there are some people who did throw themselves at these powerful men we're hearing about, but I have personally been subjected to unwanted groping by a 2 former Bulls (one hall of famer, one just a role player) and a former All Star Black Hawk.  I also witnessed another hall of fame Bull grope someone against her will, as well as a former All Star Bull.

I think all I'm saying is that athletes have more willing participants near them after games.  These entertainment industry folks are just surrounded by other folks in the same industry.  This is just theory, and I'm not surprised to hear that some of them still run around grabbing women.  Honestly, all of this shit in the news has me lately thinking back to college about times I was drunk and messing around with some coworker after a long night of waiting tables at a party and wondering "what if she thinks I got too grabby or something?"  I was one of those guys that was overly respectful to women, even at that age, but anymore you have to wonder how SHE perceived the encounter and consider if it might come back to bite you someday.

blondy28 wrote: Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

alohafri wrote:

blondy28 wrote: Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

Does that include men watching powerful women? Or any woman for that matter.

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

blondy28 wrote: Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

Does that include men watching powerful women? Or any woman for that matter.

I'm pretty sure this ONLY applies to women not wanting to watch dudes yanking it.

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

blondy28 wrote: Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

Does that include men watching powerful women? Or any woman for that matter.

I'm pretty sure this ONLY applies to women not wanting to watch dudes yanking it.

blondy28 wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

blondy28 wrote: Nobody wants to see you masturbate.

Does that include men watching powerful women? Or any woman for that matter.

I'm pretty sure this ONLY applies to women not wanting to watch dudes yanking it.

Well, I can't speak for men, but from what I hear, this type of behavior from women would not be frowned upon.

cream919 wrote:I hope you learned folks realize that it doesn't matter what the Hon. Judge Moore did or didn't do. Those inbred cretins down in Alabama will STILL vote him into office.

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

cream919 wrote:I hope you learned folks realize that it doesn't matter what the Hon. Judge Moore did or didn't do. Those inbred cretins down in Alabama will STILL vote him into office.

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

alohafri wrote:

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

Yeah. I think this just says that the rumors and innuendos about the "casting couch" weren't just rumors and innuendos.

frank bonifacic wrote:

alohafri wrote:

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

Yeah. I think this just says that the rumors and innuendos about the "casting couch" weren't just rumors and innuendos.

They definitely weren't just rumors. Saw an article on the internet the other day regarding Family Guy. Producer there has been clear as to what was happening.
In 2005!!!, had an episode on -don't recall topic of show- showed Stewie running naked through a shopping mall, saying "I've just escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement!"
Another, a takeoff on "Taken" titled "Leggo my Meggo" has Meg kidnaped by white slavers. One of characters in disguise is being auctioned off and one of the bidders is the other goof in the news now (not Weinstein or Spacey,dont recall name) says $75,000 and then announces his name.
Finally, believe at Oscars, McFarland (producer, creator and voice of several of the characters) presented an award and in referring to the candidates (actresses) said " Congratulations, ladies, you no longer have to pretend that you like Harvey Weinstein"
So, obviously  rumors?? very well known. And no one went after Family Guy. How interesting -and the rest of the industry just ignored it.

blondy28 wrote:

frank bonifacic wrote:

alohafri wrote:

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

Yeah. I think this just says that the rumors and innuendos about the "casting couch" weren't just rumors and innuendos.

They definitely weren't just rumors. Saw an article on the internet the other day regarding Family Guy. Producer there has been clear as to what was happening.
In 2005!!!, had an episode on -don't recall topic of show- showed Stewie running naked through a shopping mall, saying "I've just escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement!"
Another, a takeoff on "Taken" titled "Leggo my Meggo" has Meg kidnaped by white slavers. One of characters in disguise is being auctioned off and one of the bidders is the other goof in the news now (not Weinstein or Spacey,dont recall name) says $75,000 and then announces his name.
Finally, believe at Oscars, McFarland (producer, creator and voice of several of the characters) presented an award and in referring to the candidates (actresses) said " Congratulations, ladies, you no longer have to pretend that you like Harvey Weinstein"
So, obviously  rumors?? very well known. And no one went after Family Guy. How interesting -and the rest of the industry just ignored it.

Yes, Hollywood knew about Spacey and Weinstein and Cosby.   Word gets around, just like every other industry.   If there's a rumbling or two, it can be dismissed as being the rumor mill, but at some point you realize that where there's smoke, there's fire.  Too bad this country doesn't realize the same about the fat orange predator in the White House.

blondy28 wrote:

frank bonifacic wrote:

alohafri wrote:

sharpy wrote:Doesn't anyone smell hypocrisy, or a double standard in all of this? Is the 'casting couch" something new in Hollywood, or have actresses fucked their way to the top (and actors as well) since Edison invented the movie camera? Didn't Madonna write a whole book about how she fucked her way to stardom?  So Weinstein and all these other movie people took advantage of all these 'innocent pure girls"?  Or, after being offered a blow job by the first 4 actresses up for a part, they hit on the fifth that wouldn't participate and she got mad? OR are they coming out now b/c they didn't get the part and are pissed off?  Where are the BIG stars in all this? Where is Meryl streep? She never got propositioned? How about Carmen Diaz, another one who is rumored to have used her body to advance her career. Is she going to come out with stories, or b/c it "worked" for her, she's keeping her mouth shut?  And how about the women who propositioned these guys and made the advances?  Maybe some women get groped b/c the previous 10 women in contact with that producer or athlete grabbed his dick and offered a service so he just figured they all will?  Is it wrong to do what Weinstein did, or Spacey, or Charlie sheen, or whoever? Yea, it is and they are pigs and no man who respects a woman would ever proceed in that manor. But many past experiences with actresses have lead to the lack of respect? . But its no more wrong than a young Madonna offering to fuck a producer to get her record released.  Or a young actress getting a part b/c she fucked the director, producer and the screenwriter. And why isn't that a big deal? or publicized?  or criticized?   Maybe men are worse than women, and it happens more frequently a man on a woman, but lets not make Virgin Marys out of actresses or athletic groupies either.  There just might be enough irresponsibility and bad behavior to cover both sexes.

Yeah. I think this just says that the rumors and innuendos about the "casting couch" weren't just rumors and innuendos.

They definitely weren't just rumors. Saw an article on the internet the other day regarding Family Guy. Producer there has been clear as to what was happening.
In 2005!!!, had an episode on -don't recall topic of show- showed Stewie running naked through a shopping mall, saying "I've just escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement!"
Another, a takeoff on "Taken" titled "Leggo my Meggo" has Meg kidnaped by white slavers. One of characters in disguise is being auctioned off and one of the bidders is the other goof in the news now (not Weinstein or Spacey,dont recall name) says $75,000 and then announces his name.
Finally, believe at Oscars, McFarland (producer, creator and voice of several of the characters) presented an award and in referring to the candidates (actresses) said " Congratulations, ladies, you no longer have to pretend that you like Harvey Weinstein"
So, obviously  rumors?? very well known. And no one went after Family Guy. How interesting -and the rest of the industry just ignored it.

Yes, Hollywood knew about Spacey and Weinstein and Cosby.   Word gets around, just like every other industry.   If there's a rumbling or two, it can be dismissed as being the rumor mill, but at some point you realize that where there's smoke, there's fire.  Too bad this country doesn't realize the same about the fat orange predator in the White House.

alohafri wrote:


The predators in Washington go beyond the President. He just won't admit it. Of course according to Hannity, that's "fake news." I'm sure there are others in Congress who won't either. 

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:


The predators in Washington go beyond the President. He just won't admit it. Of course according to Hannity, that's "fake news." I'm sure there are others in Congress who won't either. 

How does Hannity have even a scintilla of credibility anymore?  How does he even have a job?  Isn't he a laughingstock?  I get the sense that most people now see him as something of an extension of Alex Jones, whereas he's just a far right wing crackpot, espousing conspiracy theories.  Maybe some of the old folks that read the Enquirer and Weekly World News still think he's telling the truth.  Seems to me like his show has become an almost caricature of a state-run TV propaganda network.