...and it would be really helpful if they came up with a phrase that's easier to say than "quid pro quo" because everyone pretty much messes it up.
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I have believed Barr, Pompeio, and Pence to be as deep and criminally liable from day 1. This should surprise nobody.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:I have believed Barr, Pompeio, and Pence to be as deep and criminally liable from day 1. This should surprise nobody.
Was hard to know exactly when they became involved based on what we knew for sure when we heard about the first whistle blower complaint. At that time, the three of them were flying around, as was Giuliani, but didn't know if it was damage control after the fact. Some have suggested that when Kamala Harris asked Barr if Trump had asked him to investigate anyo'ne and he was trying to choose his words that this may have been what he was thinking about.
So the new talking point is that "abuse of power isn't a crime"?
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blondy28 wrote:SoxIlliniRob wrote:I have believed Barr, Pompeio, and Pence to be as deep and criminally liable from day 1. This should surprise nobody.
Was hard to know exactly when they became involved based on what we knew for sure when we heard about the first whistle blower complaint. At that time, the three of them were flying around, as was Giuliani, but didn't know if it was damage control after the fact. Some have suggested that when Kamala Harris asked Barr if Trump had asked him to investigate anyo'ne and he was trying to choose his words that this may have been what he was thinking about.
So the new talking point is that "abuse of power isn't a crime"?
Great. Let them take that stand and die on that hill. 70% of the American people are smarter than that. Plus, impeachment isn't a legal process. It's a political process. It needn't adhere to legal standards of what is a crime and what isn't, which I know that you already know.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:blondy28 wrote:SoxIlliniRob wrote:I have believed Barr, Pompeio, and Pence to be as deep and criminally liable from day 1. This should surprise nobody.
Was hard to know exactly when they became involved based on what we knew for sure when we heard about the first whistle blower complaint. At that time, the three of them were flying around, as was Giuliani, but didn't know if it was damage control after the fact. Some have suggested that when Kamala Harris asked Barr if Trump had asked him to investigate anyo'ne and he was trying to choose his words that this may have been what he was thinking about.
So the new talking point is that "abuse of power isn't a crime"?
Great. Let them take that stand and die on that hill. 70% of the American people are smarter than that. Plus, impeachment isn't a legal process. It's a political process. It needn't adhere to legal standards of what is a crime and what isn't, which I know that you already know.
Yes, but the people who buy into Trump being the most abused president in our history...he's just a hard working guy who wants to see our country at our best...those people couldn't care less whether it's a legal process or congressional, as long as their grifter isn't impeached.
What the Republicans did today is humiliating. And of course Gaetz and Jordan had their hands all over it. Have some dignity!
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blondy28 wrote:
Yes, but the people who buy into Trump being the most abused president in our history...he's just a hard working guy who wants to see our country at our best...those people couldn't care less whether it's a legal process or congressional, as long as their grifter isn't impeached.
What the Republicans did today is humiliating. And of course Gaetz and Jordan had their hands all over it. Have some dignity!
Can you believe how low and embarrassing they are willing to go? The nation is laughing at them. Gaetz and Jordan appear to me to have no limits to how far they'll bend over for Trump.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:blondy28 wrote:
Yes, but the people who buy into Trump being the most abused president in our history...he's just a hard working guy who wants to see our country at our best...those people couldn't care less whether it's a legal process or congressional, as long as their grifter isn't impeached.
What the Republicans did today is humiliating. And of course Gaetz and Jordan had their hands all over it. Have some dignity!
Can you believe how low and embarrassing they are willing to go? The nation is laughing at them. Gaetz and Jordan appear to me to have no limits to how far they'll bend over for Trump.
It's truly frightening. Barr, Pompeo, Lindsey Graham, these long-time politicians who are doing this for someone like Trump...it boggles the mind!
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It's truly frightening. Barr, Pompeo, Lindsey Graham, these long-time politicians who are doing this for someone like Trump...it boggles the mind!
Not doing for trump ...they are doing it for their pocketbook and to maintain the dominating rule of the White Man ...or MAN in general - down with Mexicans, down with blacks, down with Asians … down down down .. and especially - down with women .. .keep them in their place b/c god dam, it's not possible these broads are smarter than ME!
Not doing for trump ...they are doing it for their pocketbook and to maintain the dominating rule of the White Man ...or MAN in general - down with Mexicans, down with blacks, down with Asians … down down down .. and especially - down with women .. .keep them in their place b/c god dam, it's not possible these broads are smarter than ME!
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And then now we have Bill Barr opening an investigation into its own Russia investigation for having dared to investigate the Russian incursion into our elections in 2016. This shit just can't go low enough.
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sharpy wrote:It's truly frightening. Barr, Pompeo, Lindsey Graham, these long-time politicians who are doing this for someone like Trump...it boggles the mind!
Not doing for trump ...they are doing it for their pocketbook and to maintain the dominating rule of the White Man ...or MAN in general - down with Mexicans, down with blacks, down with Asians … down down down .. and especially - down with women .. .keep them in their place b/c god dam, it's not possible these broads are smarter than ME!
Don't leave out the LGBTQ community.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:And then now we have Bill Barr opening an investigation into its own Russia investigation for having dared to investigate the Russian incursion into our elections in 2016. This shit just can't go low enough.
He had already opened an investigation into what led to opening the investigation during the 2016 campaign. The news that broke yesterday is that they're now opening a CRIMINAL investigation. Just watched the rerun Lawrence O'Donnell, and they were speculating what kind of action could possibly rise to criminality. They couldn't think of anything except maybe a perjury charge.
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He had already opened an investigation into what led to opening the investigation during the 2016 campaign. The news that broke yesterday is that they're now opening a CRIMINAL investigation. Just watched the rerun Lawrence O'Donnell, and they were speculating what kind of action could possibly rise to criminality. They couldn't think of anything except maybe a perjury charge.
So correct me if I am wrong b/c sometimes this batshit craziness makes my head swim ..is the DOJ opening a criminal investigation against the FBI?? Seriously, these intel guys, and CIA, and all those bad asses - are gonna start making "accidents" happen.
So correct me if I am wrong b/c sometimes this batshit craziness makes my head swim ..is the DOJ opening a criminal investigation against the FBI?? Seriously, these intel guys, and CIA, and all those bad asses - are gonna start making "accidents" happen.
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