Shit or get off the pot!

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

There is so much of this and I get it.  I'm gonna move to Arkansas where there ain't no taxes and the gov't doesn't interfere and everything is awesome.  And then a month after you move, you're thinking "Holy shit!  I'm in the middle of fucking Arkansas and there's not a major league sports stadium within 300 miles and it's hotter than hell here."  And that's not to mention the overall quality of life there.

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

There is so much of this and I get it.  I'm gonna move to Arkansas where there ain't no taxes and the gov't doesn't interfere and everything is awesome.  And then a month after you move, you're thinking "Holy shit!  I'm in the middle of fucking Arkansas and there's not a major league sports stadium within 300 miles and it's hotter than hell here."  And that's not to mention the overall quality of life there.

And the tornadoes that come through every week!

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

There is so much of this and I get it.  I'm gonna move to Arkansas where there ain't no taxes and the gov't doesn't interfere and everything is awesome.  And then a month after you move, you're thinking "Holy shit!  I'm in the middle of fucking Arkansas and there's not a major league sports stadium within 300 miles and it's hotter than hell here."  And that's not to mention the overall quality of life there.

And the tornadoes that come through every week!

Yes.  All of that.  Illinois isn't for everyone.  It has its warts, as we've seen.  But Illinois also comes with a nice bit of diversity and all of the perks of having a big city metropolis with all it has to offer.  I've seen "Hamilton" in Chicago twice.  I'm going to watch Kopech pitch tomorrow.  I take my boys into the city to wander and shop and let them play Pokemon Go.  None of that crap happens in Arkansas or Kentucky.  Every one of these alternative options comes with ups and downs, including ours.

alohafri wrote:Social media is flooded with comments from Illinois residents about how much they hate living here because of high taxes, etc. and how they can't wait to move. What the hell are you waiting for? Move or shut the fuck up!

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

blondy28 wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

My aunt and her husband moved to South Carolina when he retired...because of everything you said.  And it was the worst decision they could have made...and she's kind of stuck there.  She lives just outside of Myrtle Beach.  Their house was cheap, but everything else is just as expensive as here, but the wages are much lower.  Since my uncle was retired and had a good pension, and part of his retirement package was free health insurance coverage unless either one of them took a job that offered healthcare coverage, at which time it would be revoked.  So they thought this was a great place to retired.  Then, my uncle committed suicide, and my aunt had to go to work...so they lost their free insurance.  And her wages were crap, so whenever they needed a home repair or a car repair, my dad had to send my aunt money.  My cousin and her son moved in with my aunt when she got divorced, and she decided to go to school to get a career rather than a job.  So she went to school to be a dental hygienist...and my aunt worked a low paying job to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.  After Melissa graduated, she couldn't get a job with any competitive compensation.  As it turns out, the dental hygiene school was in their town, so they had too many dental hygienists than jobs, and the jobs they had were low paying because of the proximity to the school.  Then Melissa went back to school to be a physical therapist.  As all of this is going on, Melissa gives birth to her second son who actually has even more medical problems than her first son.  Both sons are a medical mess.  So we tell my aunt that she should come up here because Melissa could get a job as a physical therapist or dental hygienist and made good money.  BUT, their house costs not much more than a trailer, so there's no way she'd be able to sell it and to buy somewhere to live in this area.  It's a mess.  Keep me here where there a good paying jobs, culture, GREAT restaurants, etc.  The resta yas can go to these awful southern red states.

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

blondy28 wrote:

alohafri wrote:

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Ha. I see it all the time. We have a pretty nice standard of living here.  Many less expensive states are there for the taking if you don't mind the quality of life there.

A guy I used to work with who retired two years ago, moved to one of the Carolinas. He told us that while the taxes were lower, the cost of insurance was sky high because of the threat of hurricanes. They don't base cost on zip code, but on the whole state. In one hand, out the other. People think Shangri-La is anywhere but here. "I'm going to move to Indiana where everything is roses and puppies!"

My aunt and her husband moved to South Carolina when he retired...because of everything you said.  And it was the worst decision they could have made...and she's kind of stuck there.  She lives just outside of Myrtle Beach.  Their house was cheap, but everything else is just as expensive as here, but the wages are much lower.  Since my uncle was retired and had a good pension, and part of his retirement package was free health insurance coverage unless either one of them took a job that offered healthcare coverage, at which time it would be revoked.  So they thought this was a great place to retired.  Then, my uncle committed suicide, and my aunt had to go to work...so they lost their free insurance.  And her wages were crap, so whenever they needed a home repair or a car repair, my dad had to send my aunt money.  My cousin and her son moved in with my aunt when she got divorced, and she decided to go to school to get a career rather than a job.  So she went to school to be a dental hygienist...and my aunt worked a low paying job to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.  After Melissa graduated, she couldn't get a job with any competitive compensation.  As it turns out, the dental hygiene school was in their town, so they had too many dental hygienists than jobs, and the jobs they had were low paying because of the proximity to the school.  Then Melissa went back to school to be a physical therapist.  As all of this is going on, Melissa gives birth to her second son who actually has even more medical problems than her first son.  Both sons are a medical mess.  So we tell my aunt that she should come up here because Melissa could get a job as a physical therapist or dental hygienist and made good money.  BUT, their house costs not much more than a trailer, so there's no way she'd be able to sell it and to buy somewhere to live in this area.  It's a mess.  Keep me here where there a good paying jobs, culture, GREAT restaurants, etc.  The resta yas can go to these awful southern red states.

We go to Myrtle for my kid's high school tourney each spring.  That place is a hellhole.  In fact, the drive through SC to get there is about the most depressing shit ever.  I'm sure there are nice areas, like Charleston and whatnot, but I'd not want to live in any portion of the state that I've seen.  I plan to check out Charleston next spring.

sharpy wrote:Some people are never happy, and think that all the good things they have will come with them wherever you go, and the bad will stay behind …..and there is no other badness that will occur to you. My Friend was telling me how he wants out of Illinois b/c "they are killing everyone around here"..until I pointed out to him that during our teens and 20s, WE were much more likely to be murdered than his kids are today ….Rob is right, if you want to not enjoy life, not have anything to do, not have anything exciting , or experiences, then move to a town of 10k....but don't think there isn't shit there too.

alohafri wrote:And I kid you not when I say that people are thinking of Indiana as the promised land.

blondy28 wrote:

alohafri wrote:And I kid you not when I say that people are thinking of Indiana as the promised land.

Indiana is a dump.  The minute you enter Indiana there are nothing but strip bar, fireworks, and Jesus billboards.  My favorite is the one that says "Jesus is real" on one side and "Hell is real" on the other.