Taboo topic

SoxIlliniRob wrote:Not a word about the Catholic Church coverup in Pennsylvania?  Pretty gross story.  Wondered if maybe folks are nervous about bringing it up out of fear of upsetting somebody.  We're adults.  I'll toss it out there.  Seems like it's 15-70 yrs behind us, but I wonder if this sort of thing is still occurring in some places.  And why does it seem confined to one religion?  Do some think it's a symptom of their celibacy vow?  I have known a number of involuntarily celibate guys who couldn't get a date...are they potential pedophiles at a greater rate?
I remember the huge outcry from Christians over marriage equality and how it would pervert our nation.  I also remember the shreiking about trans folks using the bathrooms of their chosen gender instead of their birth gender.   Haven't seen or heard much outcry over this, however.

frank bonifacic wrote:

Probably the same % of Catholic priests as in society in general. The celibacy could be a small issue, but was also a safe way for a gay to bend in with a respectable profession (not saying that all were but just the that were might find this a safe space-and not necessarily pedophiles, but just gays.)

alohafri wrote:The cover up is just as bad as the actual molestation. I "know" a few priests from Facebook, one is on an XM Radio show I listen to frequently, and he has written in his homilies, which he posts online, about how much of a negative impact this has had on him personally. On a different level, the good priests and bishops, who weren't involved in any molestation or cover ups, are victims too. They can't go out in their Roman collars without getting the stink-eye from people, as if to say, "you are one of those, aren't you?"

SoxIlliniRob wrote:

alohafri wrote:The cover up is just as bad as the actual molestation. I "know" a few priests from Facebook, one is on an XM Radio show I listen to frequently, and he has written in his homilies, which he posts online, about how much of a negative impact this has had on him personally. On a different level, the good priests and bishops, who weren't involved in any molestation or cover ups, are victims too. They can't go out in their Roman collars without getting the stink-eye from people, as if to say, "you are one of those, aren't you?"

That's potentially the saddest thing about all of this, Kevin.  There are thousands of priests who are great people, and who get a raw deal because they get lumped into this.  Not to mention just a typical church member that becomes ashamed to even tell someone he's a Catholic because it'll spur conversation about this.

alohafri wrote:I agree with you Frank. Unless I missed it, you left out teachers as well, and lately, there have been many female teachers accused of molesting young boys. One of the differences is with "young, hot" female teachers, the reactions are different..."where was she when I was in school" sort of thing.


The cover up is just as bad as the actual molestation. I "know" a few priests from Facebook, one is on an XM Radio show I listen to frequently, and he has written in his homilies, which he posts online, about how much of a negative impact this has had on him personally. On a different level, the good priests and bishops, who weren't involved in any molestation or cover ups, are victims too. They can't go out in their Roman collars without getting the stink-eye from people, as if to say, "you are one of those, aren't you?"


As a Catholic, I take a little solace in knowing that these cases are older cases, many of which where both the victims and priests are long dead. In the long run, getting this stuff out there will be good. The message being sent is that you can't do this anymore. 

frank bonifacic wrote:

alohafri wrote:I agree with you Frank. Unless I missed it, you left out teachers as well, and lately, there have been many female teachers accused of molesting young boys. One of the differences is with "young, hot" female teachers, the reactions are different..."where was she when I was in school" sort of thing.


The cover up is just as bad as the actual molestation. I "know" a few priests from Facebook, one is on an XM Radio show I listen to frequently, and he has written in his homilies, which he posts online, about how much of a negative impact this has had on him personally. On a different level, the good priests and bishops, who weren't involved in any molestation or cover ups, are victims too. They can't go out in their Roman collars without getting the stink-eye from people, as if to say, "you are one of those, aren't you?"


As a Catholic, I take a little solace in knowing that these cases are older cases, many of which where both the victims and priests are long dead. In the long run, getting this stuff out there will be good. The message being sent is that you can't do this anymore. 

And you accused Kark of not reading for comprehension!!

sharpy wrote:All I have to say about this is, I can't think of one other business that if word got out that 5000 of their employees had abused over 10,000 CHILDREN that wouldn't be bankrupt and history. Well I guess I take that back - the Mormons have survived as well.