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blondy28- Bova!
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I have a hard time generating any compassion for the people of Texas … seems almost like a justified shooting.
blondy28- Bova!
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sharpy wrote:I have a hard time generating any compassion for the people of Texas … seems almost like a justified shooting.
If anything, at least they can't keep pushing the narrative that more guns make us safer. They interviewed a guy who's a spokesperson for the hospital, and he spoke about how they prepare for these types of things so that they have a process in place, and he said if they are well prepared, they don't need FEMA or the Federal Government because they can handle it themselves. Huh?! I mean, it's certainly a good thing if your well-rehearsed processes result in lives saved, but geez, we have mass shootings about once a week, and sometimes multiple shootings in a 24-hour period, as was the case with Dayton and El Paso...is whether or not we need FEMA involved something that we're focused on?
I'm glad that the thoughts and prayers people have been shamed enough that they're actually at least not using that empty rhetoric anymore. Even the evangelical freak VP didn't say it...although he said that Trump is being updated and he's fully engaged. Does that comfort people?
After El Paso, the big orange buffoon and Melania posing with big smiles on their faces while holding the baby whose parents had just been killed demonstrates how tone deaf they are. The "good news" with this shooting is that one of the victims is a 17-month old baby. Let's hope the tone deaf duo make it down to see the baby so they can hold her with cheesie grins on their clueless faces.
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I feel another lame argument about gun laws coming on...blondy28 wrote:...thoughts and prayers coming on.
SoxIlliniRob- Bova!
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Yeah, the only solution to this problem is more guns. Arm the moms. Arm the kids. Arm the babies. Arm granny. Everyone just packing heat, waiting for a reason to draw and shoot. Why would we want reforms? All this killin' is fucking awesome.
blondy28- Bova!
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:Yeah, the only solution to this problem is more guns. Arm the moms. Arm the kids. Arm the babies. Arm granny. Everyone just packing heat, waiting for a reason to draw and shoot. Why would we want reforms? All this killin' is fucking awesome.
We shouldn't want reform...it's "lame", I'm told. Guns are inanimate objects you know. Don't blame the guns. I'm proposing that no inanimate objects should be banned. Cannons. Hand grenades. Now if you don't mind, I'm going to go back to organizing my "Opt Out Palatine" demonstration to let Jim Schwantz know that we don't want legal weed to be sold in Palatine. Much like the concept of smoking section in planes and restaurants, I feel confident that there will no weed smoking in Palatine if we opt out of having a dispensary.
blondy28- Bova!
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So this is one of the laws that went into effect today in Texas:
HB 1143 — Relating to the transportation or storage of a handgun or other firearm or ammunition by a handgun license holder in a school parking area. Updates the Texas Education Code to prevent school districts from regulating the manner in which a licensed person's handgun, firearm, or ammunition is stored in their vehicle in a school parking area.
So let me get this straight. If a licensed gun owner chooses to leave his gun on his front seat, he is able to do so? Yes, the gun lobby will say that nobody would do such a thing because they wouldn't want their gun stolen, but geez, people leave their keys in the ignition of their parked cars all the time, and they don't want their cars stolen...but I digress. So after the El Paso massacre, Texas felt it was necessary to pass this law. Why? What am I missing here? I'm not reading this to mean that the prior law prohibited guns from being stored in vehicles while that vehicle is on school property, because the law would presumably have language saying that the Texas Education Code is update to allow storage of a firearm in a vehicle, etc. It specifically references the MANNER of storage. So again I ask, why was such a law necessary?
HB 1143 — Relating to the transportation or storage of a handgun or other firearm or ammunition by a handgun license holder in a school parking area. Updates the Texas Education Code to prevent school districts from regulating the manner in which a licensed person's handgun, firearm, or ammunition is stored in their vehicle in a school parking area.
So let me get this straight. If a licensed gun owner chooses to leave his gun on his front seat, he is able to do so? Yes, the gun lobby will say that nobody would do such a thing because they wouldn't want their gun stolen, but geez, people leave their keys in the ignition of their parked cars all the time, and they don't want their cars stolen...but I digress. So after the El Paso massacre, Texas felt it was necessary to pass this law. Why? What am I missing here? I'm not reading this to mean that the prior law prohibited guns from being stored in vehicles while that vehicle is on school property, because the law would presumably have language saying that the Texas Education Code is update to allow storage of a firearm in a vehicle, etc. It specifically references the MANNER of storage. So again I ask, why was such a law necessary?
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One minor thing I have noted is that nations that strongly regulate guns and gun ownership seem not to have mass shootings. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.
blondy28- Bova!
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:One minor thing I have noted is that nations that strongly regulate guns and gun ownership seem not to have mass shootings. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.
Yeah, I've heard that. I think common sense dictates that those nations don't have video games or mental illness.
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93% of the population supports improved background checks...a national database.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:One minor thing I have noted is that nations that strongly regulate guns and gun ownership seem not to have mass shootings. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.
Tony Perkins says the problem is that our kids are being taught science. We need to cut that out and allow school prayer, and this problem goes away cuz these shooters will know that Christ loves them and that they're valuable people. I gotta say that I've been hearing that kinda stuff since I was a kid, and I always had the complete opposite reaction to it. It sure didn't make me feel valued on any level. I understand that the big selling point of Christianity is that this God loves Hitler as much as he loves everyone...he's just that awesome and forgiving, and no matter what you do, you will be able to live all eternity in heaven. Got it. I'm totally un-spectacular and un-special and on equal footing with Hitler.
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Saw where 53 Americans were killed in August in mass shootings. Also saw where Trump was pressed for comments about Odessa's mass killing and his response was that he's somewhat glad because it could have been worse. Awesome. Things are turning around, I guess.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:Saw where 53 Americans were killed in August in mass shootings. Also saw where Trump was pressed for comments about Odessa's mass killing and his response was that he's somewhat glad because it could have been worse. Awesome. Things are turning around, I guess.
Could he find Odessa on a map?
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alohafri wrote:SoxIlliniRob wrote:Saw where 53 Americans were killed in August in mass shootings. Also saw where Trump was pressed for comments about Odessa's mass killing and his response was that he's somewhat glad because it could have been worse. Awesome. Things are turning around, I guess.
Could he find Odessa on a map?
Could he find Texas??
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I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
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blondy28 wrote:I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
He didn't need to even buy a gun. He could have borrowed it from his friend Dan Crenshaw, who apparently loans his guns out to his friends for protection.
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alohafri wrote:blondy28 wrote:I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
He didn't need to even buy a gun. He could have borrowed it from his friend Dan Crenshaw, who apparently loans his guns out to his friends for protection.
It's utterly amazing to me that a guy that tries to come across as Mr. Everyman (Crenshaw) would come out against background checks and then try arguing that he wants to be able to lend guns to people who wouldn't be able to pass the background check. I saw AOC completely embarrassing him on Twitter yesterday. He tried turning the tables and accusing AOC of calling his friends criminals and abusers, which she never said. When 90+% of the public supports comprehensive background checks, and you're not one of them, you probably need to just remain quiet about it.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:alohafri wrote:blondy28 wrote:I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
He didn't need to even buy a gun. He could have borrowed it from his friend Dan Crenshaw, who apparently loans his guns out to his friends for protection.
It's utterly amazing to me that a guy that tries to come across as Mr. Everyman (Crenshaw) would come out against background checks and then try arguing that he wants to be able to lend guns to people who wouldn't be able to pass the background check. I saw AOC completely embarrassing him on Twitter yesterday. He tried turning the tables and accusing AOC of calling his friends criminals and abusers, which she never said. When 90+% of the public supports comprehensive background checks, and you're not one of them, you probably need to just remain quiet about it.
Best I heard was someone wondering if Crenshaw would loan his car to an unlicensed friend.
blondy28- Bova!
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:alohafri wrote:blondy28 wrote:I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
He didn't need to even buy a gun. He could have borrowed it from his friend Dan Crenshaw, who apparently loans his guns out to his friends for protection.
It's utterly amazing to me that a guy that tries to come across as Mr. Everyman (Crenshaw) would come out against background checks and then try arguing that he wants to be able to lend guns to people who wouldn't be able to pass the background check. I saw AOC completely embarrassing him on Twitter yesterday. He tried turning the tables and accusing AOC of calling his friends criminals and abusers, which she never said. When 90+% of the public supports comprehensive background checks, and you're not one of them, you probably need to just remain quiet about it.
I read that exchange, and I think the point he was making is that he never said the people he was loaning guns to had failed background checks, and that there are so many other reasons for loaning people firearms...impromptu hunting excursions, etc. Dana Loesch chimed in with her experiences as well. I've made no secret about my feelings about guns, and I like to quote Bill Maher on this issue...he said "I have a gun, but I don't love my gun." I think our "gun culture"...the attitude about guns...is what really needs to change, and I'm not sure how we do that. The twitter exchange about loaning people guns exemplified this perfectly to me. Do the gun folks really loan their guns to people the same way I would loan a purse to my friends? You hear about all these accidental shootings and the gun people make it sound like those cases are outliers and "responsible gun owners" would never have such accidents, but then Crenshaw makes that comment and it certainly leaves me with the impression that the gun folks simply don't get it.
blondy28- Bova!
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:alohafri wrote:blondy28 wrote:I see shooter was denied a gun in 2014 due to background check, so he purchased in a private sale. I'm guessing the families of the people killed by this lunatic don't find the discussion about gun laws to be "lame"...especially that one about background checks.
He didn't need to even buy a gun. He could have borrowed it from his friend Dan Crenshaw, who apparently loans his guns out to his friends for protection.
It's utterly amazing to me that a guy that tries to come across as Mr. Everyman (Crenshaw) would come out against background checks and then try arguing that he wants to be able to lend guns to people who wouldn't be able to pass the background check. I saw AOC completely embarrassing him on Twitter yesterday. He tried turning the tables and accusing AOC of calling his friends criminals and abusers, which she never said. When 90+% of the public supports comprehensive background checks, and you're not one of them, you probably need to just remain quiet about it.
I read that exchange, and I think the point he was making is that he never said the people he was loaning guns to had failed background checks, and that there are so many other reasons for loaning people firearms...impromptu hunting excursions, etc. Dana Loesch chimed in with her experiences as well. I've made no secret about my feelings about guns, and I like to quote Bill Maher on this issue...he said "I have a gun, but I don't love my gun." I think our "gun culture"...the attitude about guns...is what really needs to change, and I'm not sure how we do that. The twitter exchange about loaning people guns exemplified this perfectly to me. Do the gun folks really loan their guns to people the same way I would loan a purse to my friends? You hear about all these accidental shootings and the gun people make it sound like those cases are outliers and "responsible gun owners" would never have such accidents, but then Crenshaw makes that comment and it certainly leaves me with the impression that the gun folks simply don't get it.
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