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Most folks are too oblivious to even realize it. They are doing their jobs and living their lives. People don't have the time to read up on all of this shit and be aware of the attempts to brainwash them. It is chilling, just as you say.
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SoxIlliniRob wrote:Most folks are too oblivious to even realize it. They are doing their jobs and living their lives. People don't have the time to read up on all of this shit and be aware of the attempts to brainwash them. It is chilling, just as you say.
My Board President is someone that anyone who grew up in Chicago would know. He's a former anchor for WGN, and a Republican, but of the sensible variety. I don't know who he voted for...he only told me he voted for neither Trump nor Hillary. I asked him his thoughts about what's going on with Sinclair, and he echoed our concerns as citizens, but also spoke about it as a journalist. He said "it's easy for me to say 'I'd quit', but that might be easier said than done". Are there any legitimate conservative journalists that think this is OK? The contracts that Sinclair makes its employees sign is disturbing, too. My conservative mother in law is here and we were talking about this, and she's horrified.
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blondy28 wrote:SoxIlliniRob wrote:Most folks are too oblivious to even realize it. They are doing their jobs and living their lives. People don't have the time to read up on all of this shit and be aware of the attempts to brainwash them. It is chilling, just as you say.
My Board President is someone that anyone who grew up in Chicago would know. He's a former anchor for WGN, and a Republican, but of the sensible variety. I don't know who he voted for...he only told me he voted for neither Trump nor Hillary. I asked him his thoughts about what's going on with Sinclair, and he echoed our concerns as citizens, but also spoke about it as a journalist. He said "it's easy for me to say 'I'd quit', but that might be easier said than done". Are there any legitimate conservative journalists that think this is OK? The contracts that Sinclair makes its employees sign is disturbing, too. My conservative mother in law is here and we were talking about this, and she's horrified.
None of this is surprising. Money controls everything and is why our reps don't vote for our interests and instead vote for what the corporate donors want. Now money can control our access to news. Doesn't affect me much. I know where to get fairly reliable news, but the average person just flips on the TV and accepts what they are being told. Nothing wrong with that. Most people don't have the time or desire to dig into who is the most reliable source, but it'll be a shame to see them turn into an uninformed voter.
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but the average person just flips on the TV and accepts what they are being told. Nothing wrong with that.
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The fuck there isn't. I mean really Rob...think about it. Not everybody is as well read and, for the most part, as reasonable as you are. Or as intelligent either for that matter...and don't let that go to your head because you could certainly use a bit more street smarts. The point being that less "involved" or intelligent people...well we know who they tend to turn on their tv and get their news from and it's exactly this kind of thing that got that deplorable, mentally ill egomaniac a seat in the oval office. In short there IS something wrong with that. Very wrong!!!
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The fuck there isn't. I mean really Rob...think about it. Not everybody is as well read and, for the most part, as reasonable as you are. Or as intelligent either for that matter...and don't let that go to your head because you could certainly use a bit more street smarts. The point being that less "involved" or intelligent people...well we know who they tend to turn on their tv and get their news from and it's exactly this kind of thing that got that deplorable, mentally ill egomaniac a seat in the oval office. In short there IS something wrong with that. Very wrong!!!
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There were a few Sinclair stations and anchors that refused to read the script handed them by the powers that be. There is still some journalistic integrity out there. The interesting thing to see will be if these anchors keep their jobs.
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cream919 wrote:but the average person just flips on the TV and accepts what they are being told. Nothing wrong with that.
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The fuck there isn't. I mean really Rob...think about it. Not everybody is as well read and, for the most part, as reasonable as you are. Or as intelligent either for that matter...and don't let that go to your head because you could certainly use a bit more street smarts. The point being that less "involved" or intelligent people...well we know who they tend to turn on their tv and get their news from and it's exactly this kind of thing that got that deplorable, mentally ill egomaniac a seat in the oval office. In short there IS something wrong with that. Very wrong!!!
I get where you're coming from. Fair points. I'm really only noting that there's nothing wrong with folks that turn on standard news and have a tendency to generally believe what they hear. Not talking about the mouth-breathing folks that turn on Fox and believe and parrot everything they see and hear there. I'm talking about the way my mom and dad took in the news. They worked all day and came home and turned on the channel 7 news and yelled at us while trying to hear what they missed in the world that day.
And we can all use a bit more street smarts.
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alohafri wrote:There were a few Sinclair stations and anchors that refused to read the script handed them by the powers that be. There is still some journalistic integrity out there. The interesting thing to see will be if these anchors keep their jobs.
Likely not. I hear there is a swelling movement to push advertisers not to spend money to advertise with Sinclair as long as they are going to push a non-journalistic agenda, I guess similar to the push to get Laura Ingraham's advertisers to pull off of her show. That seems to have worked quite nicely. It's also worked nicely to get some corporations to un-couple with the NRA. Good to see.
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It's not really news when the outcome is already figured out.
Here's the real problem. The FCC was set up to protect the airwaves of radio and TV. One of the first things they did was to set limits on ownership. Making it impossible for one company to have more than one radio and one TV station in each market. It was realized that it would be bad for one voice to be the only voice that would be heard. They changed that and made some dual ownerships possible within limits. Here in Chicago CH.5 NBC also owns and operates WSNS CH.44. CH.32 does the same with WPWR CH.50. I'm not even going to touch on the new digital stations that operate on sub channels.
If Sinclair is allowed to go thru with the purchase of Tribune Media's 42 stations it will have coverage of 70% of the country. Thats WGN TV & Radio here in Chicago. Currently that is against the rules. BUT the moron in chief places a new head of the FCC soon after he is in office. Seems we may be getting new rules about ownership. New rules that are apparently going to help a company that went out of it's way to help the fucking idiot in the oval office.
Got 19 minutes. Heres something to watch about Sinclair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
Here's the real problem. The FCC was set up to protect the airwaves of radio and TV. One of the first things they did was to set limits on ownership. Making it impossible for one company to have more than one radio and one TV station in each market. It was realized that it would be bad for one voice to be the only voice that would be heard. They changed that and made some dual ownerships possible within limits. Here in Chicago CH.5 NBC also owns and operates WSNS CH.44. CH.32 does the same with WPWR CH.50. I'm not even going to touch on the new digital stations that operate on sub channels.
If Sinclair is allowed to go thru with the purchase of Tribune Media's 42 stations it will have coverage of 70% of the country. Thats WGN TV & Radio here in Chicago. Currently that is against the rules. BUT the moron in chief places a new head of the FCC soon after he is in office. Seems we may be getting new rules about ownership. New rules that are apparently going to help a company that went out of it's way to help the fucking idiot in the oval office.
Got 19 minutes. Heres something to watch about Sinclair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
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On a related note, if there was ever any doubt that Fox News is Trump's personal cheer leading network, they are playing his "campaign rally" from Michigan a second time...just a half an hour after the original airing ended.
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alohafri wrote:On a related note, if there was ever any doubt that Fox News is Trump's personal cheer leading network, they are playing his "campaign rally" from Michigan a second time...just a half an hour after the original airing ended.
There was definitely not any doubt....
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alohafri wrote:On a related note, if there was ever any doubt that Fox News is Trump's personal cheer leading network, they are playing his "campaign rally" from Michigan a second time...just a half an hour after the original airing ended.
I watched an Investigation Discovery show about a property manager who was murdered by her maintenance man, who lived on-site with his wife and two kids, and this property manager who manages a property that has an on-site maintenance man with a wife and two kids is far more frightened by the thought of watching a Trump rally once, let alone twice.
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America loves Trump right now. I said all along that this Russia thing was much ado about nothing and there wouldn't be anything to come of it. Seems I'm probably right. He's like Teflon...nothing sticks to him and his dumb-ass wisecracks on Twitter serves their desired result by keeping the people he goes after off-balance. Gotta admit...you can laugh, scoff and bitch all you want but it's a simple and brilliant strategy. Makes all of his critics like many in the news media look like a bunch of crybaby whiners. I don't know what, if anything, is going to throw Trump off-stride but nothing that has happened so far that is going to do it. People don't care if he fucked Stormy Daniels, they don't care if he wants a wall because they know it probably won't get built anyway and they don't care how much pussy he might have grabbed. Things are rolling along robustly with the economy and, in all things political, the state of the economy dictates a president's popularity above all else.
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cream919 wrote:People don't care if he fucked Stormy Daniels, they don't care if he wants a wall because they know it probably won't get built anyway and they don't care how much pussy he might have grabbed.
I know I sure as hell don't care who he fucked. In fact, I'm perplexed as to how he gets semi-attractive women to come within 1,000 feet of him.
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His kind of money can get him anything he wants Rob.
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cream919 wrote:His kind of money can get him anything he wants Rob.
Money AND fame...although as I've said before, it's not like Stormy or the playmate weren't around famous men with money their whole careers, so kinda surprising that they end up fucking that fuck. I can see where a cleaning lady would be star struck by Trump, but porn stars and playmates had to have been somewhat used to it.
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Yeah, that McDougal playmate has said Trump tried paying her, but that she refused money because she loved him. Huh?
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cream919 wrote:His kind of money can get him anything he wants Rob.
I'll stick with being able to lick my eyebrows.
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I'm pretty sure porn stars will fuck about anyone - that's their job. Sex doesn't mean the same to them as it does to people in general - its just an act. It's like asking Cream to stay after work to meet with a client, or asking Aloha to teach an extra class - gives other people some joy or sense of accomplishmen, but to them, its just work - same with Stormy Daniels - I'm sure Trump somehow got word to her that he wanted to fuck her - she asked whats in it for me - and boom, she went to work. Just that her work is something we all take slightly more importantly than she does ..LOL
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America loves Trump right now.
Until the levy breaks. Which eventually, it will. Your comment about him being Teflon is spot on, and that's because there is a devolution going on in this country - we are not progressing we are going backward - and will continue to go backward for a very long time - while all this stormy shit, and tweet crap is going on, the GOP is installing hundreds of conservative judges in very important places - how's that going to play out for social justice? for gay rights? for immigration and DACA?, for the middle class or the poor getting anywhere , for the ethical treatment of the old who don't have money - and all these judges are 40-50 yrs old - and in for life ...maintaining the conservative agenda for the next 30-40 yrs - Unfortunately, with people getting dumber, fatter, less ambitious, and more naïve as the years go by, I'm glad I'm old, but feel sorry for kids in this country....
Until the levy breaks. Which eventually, it will. Your comment about him being Teflon is spot on, and that's because there is a devolution going on in this country - we are not progressing we are going backward - and will continue to go backward for a very long time - while all this stormy shit, and tweet crap is going on, the GOP is installing hundreds of conservative judges in very important places - how's that going to play out for social justice? for gay rights? for immigration and DACA?, for the middle class or the poor getting anywhere , for the ethical treatment of the old who don't have money - and all these judges are 40-50 yrs old - and in for life ...maintaining the conservative agenda for the next 30-40 yrs - Unfortunately, with people getting dumber, fatter, less ambitious, and more naïve as the years go by, I'm glad I'm old, but feel sorry for kids in this country....
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Amazing how most of you ignored the real problem in this thread. One of the USA's greatest advantages is a free press that does not have to worry about government interference and different views on every issue available. Fox and now Sinclair's mission is to make sure that only a "certain" type of news should be told. Kind of a gentle way around propaganda. By buying the right pol's they are pushing propaganda under the name news.
Fox News Channel is a cable network and it is not effected by the FCC. But the Sinclair stations are. Unfortunately the Fucking Idiot (Just using the term that his former Secretary of State used.) in the White House made sure that the FCC was going to help his friends out. As a matter of fact the FCC change was one of the first things done. Over 70% of the country will have a Sinclair station if this goes thru. Outrageous that any one company should have that kind of power. Don't bring up network news. This issue is about local news.
Here's an update. The latest way around the requirements on ownership is this. Sinclair has said it will sell off a certain percentage of the Tribune stations to stay under the rules. BUT they are then going to sell them to a guy in Baltimore, they are based in Baltimore. They are going to sell these stations to a Baltimore Car Dealer. Then this guy will then allow Sinclair to run the stations for him, sort of lease them back. So they get the stations and the bullshit will be spread. Once again someone with money is pushing their beliefs on the country. It's wrong. Very, very wrong.
They have network affiliates among their stations. That means they pay ABC, NBC, CBS or Fox to take their programs. They make the money back by selling commercials in the "local" breaks in the network shows. Many of these stations also produce a local newscast. In 2004 they stopped seven of they ABC stations from airing Nightline. Why? Because they were going to show and read the names of soldiers lost in Iraq. More if you care.
Just remember this Fox News Channel was "invented" by Roger Ailles. Ailles was a TV producer for Mike Douglas who helped get Richard Nixon back in the good graces of the nation after his defeat to Kennedy. He was conservative and thought that TV news leaned too liberal. Fox was created for this purpose. MSNBC it's liberal cousin? Not originally. With Fox having so much success with one sided news it decided to try the liberal version in their news. It was originally a partnership with Microsoft's MSN web service combined with NBC for news. So MSNBC was born. Microsoft got out after a few years. It's all NBC now. It was not an "evil" birth, but one of "business".
Fox News Channel is a cable network and it is not effected by the FCC. But the Sinclair stations are. Unfortunately the Fucking Idiot (Just using the term that his former Secretary of State used.) in the White House made sure that the FCC was going to help his friends out. As a matter of fact the FCC change was one of the first things done. Over 70% of the country will have a Sinclair station if this goes thru. Outrageous that any one company should have that kind of power. Don't bring up network news. This issue is about local news.
Here's an update. The latest way around the requirements on ownership is this. Sinclair has said it will sell off a certain percentage of the Tribune stations to stay under the rules. BUT they are then going to sell them to a guy in Baltimore, they are based in Baltimore. They are going to sell these stations to a Baltimore Car Dealer. Then this guy will then allow Sinclair to run the stations for him, sort of lease them back. So they get the stations and the bullshit will be spread. Once again someone with money is pushing their beliefs on the country. It's wrong. Very, very wrong.
They have network affiliates among their stations. That means they pay ABC, NBC, CBS or Fox to take their programs. They make the money back by selling commercials in the "local" breaks in the network shows. Many of these stations also produce a local newscast. In 2004 they stopped seven of they ABC stations from airing Nightline. Why? Because they were going to show and read the names of soldiers lost in Iraq. More if you care.
Just remember this Fox News Channel was "invented" by Roger Ailles. Ailles was a TV producer for Mike Douglas who helped get Richard Nixon back in the good graces of the nation after his defeat to Kennedy. He was conservative and thought that TV news leaned too liberal. Fox was created for this purpose. MSNBC it's liberal cousin? Not originally. With Fox having so much success with one sided news it decided to try the liberal version in their news. It was originally a partnership with Microsoft's MSN web service combined with NBC for news. So MSNBC was born. Microsoft got out after a few years. It's all NBC now. It was not an "evil" birth, but one of "business".
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