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    Post by sharpy on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:25 pm

    Just well enough to lose
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    Re: Q

    Post by SoxIlliniRob on Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:56 pm

    Shoulda left him in.

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    Post by frank bonifacic on Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:39 am

    sharpy wrote:Just well enough to lose
     He didn't get the loss.
    2 runs, 2hits, 2 walks, 4 Ks.
    One bad inning and still only two runs. One well hit ball.


    And he pitched a gem last time and even came in in relief.
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    Post by SoxIlliniRob on Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:32 pm

    They have such a quick hook in the playoffs. Q pitched well against a very good team. Not great, but better than respectable. The Cubs are allowed to score more than two runs.
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    Post by alohafri on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:11 am

    SoxIlliniRob wrote:They have such a quick hook in the playoffs.  Q pitched well against a very good team.  Not great, but better than respectable.  The Cubs are allowed to score more than two runs.

    Had he pitched 6 or 7 innings, it would have been his typical White Sox start with those numbers.
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    Post by sharpy on Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:31 pm

    Fine numbers, good guy, can’t win. 
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    Post by SoxIlliniRob on Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:13 pm

    $25 says he wins at least 15 next year.  Are we on, Tim?  Or better yet, if I lose I buy you a ticket to a game in 2019 and pay for your beers during the game.  Shit, the Sox might even be worth watching by then.
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    Post by sharpy on Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:13 pm

    I’ll do that. Or, since I am not yet a Neanderthal who believes wins are the end all and be all, we can bet that in his games stated , the Cubs win 60%. Wouldn’t that be a more modern day statistical way to do it?  So if he starts 30 games, the cubs have to go 18-12.  Either way is acceptable to me. 


    And let’s also say he has to make at least 20 starts. If he’s injured it shouldn’t count. If the Cubs go 3-2 in his only 5 starts, that’s not a true bet. Pick either way. I’m ok with both. 15 actual wind or 60% team wins v
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    Post by SoxIlliniRob on Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:18 am

    Either is fine with me, too.  I thought the whole thing was about actual WINS, but we can make it about winning percentage of starts.  60% of starts as long as he starts 20 or more.  That's cool.
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    Post by sharpy on Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:24 am

    SoxIlliniRob wrote:Either is fine with me, too.  I thought the whole thing was about actual WINS, but we can make it about winning percentage of starts.  60% of starts as long as he starts 20 or more.  That's cool.


    it is about wins, but really its about team wins ...that's where the starting pitcher makes his money in my view ..if he pitches 8 inning of shutout ball, leaving with the score 0-0, another guy pitches the 9th and his team scores in the bottom of the ninth, he doesn't get the win, but he did win the game ...my contention with Quintana is that his team doesn't win when he pitches ...or they win as often as he loses them the game ....when they score 9 he'll pitch a shut out, but let them score 3 and he lets in 4, or 5 ...so the 60% team wins with at least 20 starts is good with me 
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    Post by SoxIlliniRob on Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:29 am

    All good.  It'll give me something to follow next season if the Sox suck ass.
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    Post by blondy28 on Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:29 am

    As expected, Quintana folded like a cheap tent in game 5 and couldn't make it 3 innings.  The shortest outing by any Cubs pitcher in the last 3 years of playoff appearances.
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    Post by joepoe on Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:17 pm

    Q's numbers don't reveal how truly ineffective he can be. It is like his brain turns off without warning or something.
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    Post by alohafri on Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:24 am

    Meanwhile, Eloy Jiminez is tearing up the Fall League. I hope he pans out.
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    Post by blondy28 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:20 pm

    alohafri wrote:Meanwhile, Eloy Jiminez is tearing up the Fall League. I hope he pans out.

    But of course he is.  Brock/Broglio will pale in comparison to this trade.

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