I was hyperfocused on your statement about "beginning to sound like more than just allegations" admittedly. If "skeevy" and "icky" were disqualifiers, no one would be in government. I'm sure we could find something icky about anyone. I think it very odd that he had to play the "I was still a virgin until my twenties" or whenever it was he said, card. That was weird.
I'll play the "what if" game that so many are playing. "What if" it was you? "What if" it was one of your sons? Would you prefer people said "alleged" or are you okay with being guilty in the media? Do more allegations make it so? (Playing devil's advocate here of course because I'm assuming that since you never assaulted me, you didn't assault anyone else.)Unlike many Republicans and unlike many Democrats, I will wait until after the hearings to make my decision on Judge Kavanaugh.
SoxIlliniRob wrote:USA today running a story interviewing several people who state with clarity that Ford has been telling them or told them about the Kavanaugh attack several years ago, and in some cases gave his name. Sounds like there is an old email exchange that made its way into the story as evidence. I think this is beginning to sound like more than allegations.
I've made no decisions other than the guy has seemed skeevy and icky since long before these allegations. If this many people came forward about my son, I'd be upset with my son. I'm the same way when a teacher tells me my son did something. I tend to stick with using the word alleged or I call them "claims." I've made no clear statement that any of this happened (although I tend to believe that it happened to some degree, whereby the only uncertainty is the specific details in some of the cases).
I never found Gorsuch to be skeevy or icky. Or any of the other recent nominees. He strikes me as evasive and oily...not the kind of traits we like in a SCOTUS judge. Those are the traits I expect in my politicians. I don't like politicians on SCOTUS.
And yes, when you keep hearing allegations, and then several others come forward and explain that they remember that same thing, and others corroborate having heard about it, and others say "Yes, he was a drunk who blacked out and got aggressive all the time" and when Judge's girlfriend says Judge told her about how they used to have sex with very drunk girls at parties and do so in groups, you just get to a point where it appears to be moving past allegations and instead a pretty clear picture of the kind of person these guys (Kav and Judge) were in those high school and college years.
Technically they remain allegations, but if every single person that attended Nomadsfest during a certain year says Kark was blackout drunk that year, it sort of just become the truth, instead of just an allegation.
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